Wednesday, July 16, 2014

Upcoming Lectures

Sunday, September 28th, 2014
at the Bascom Lodge
Talking Walls - Casting Out The Myth That All Stone Walls Were Build Post-Colonially, with Matt Bua"
In The Lobby At 6pm, Event Is Free
The dry stacked stonewalls focused on in this lecture do not enclose land, are built on massive foundations (ruling out field clearing piles) and terminate at streams and marshes.  Many exist where land has not been cultivated in the past.  An array of uncontested North American ancient stonewall complexes will be presented as well as correlations to stones walls and their usages from around the world. 


Directions

Some spring 2014 shots

Cairn on ground
Embrasure in Wall Surrounding Notched Boulder

Saturday, December 7, 2013

December 7th 2013 Stone Symposium II

Save the Date: Dec 7th at the Catskill Community Center 344 main st Catskill NY 12414

Presentations By:


Glenn Kriesberg:
Lithic Alignments in the Northeast, Natural, Native or Nonsense

Polly Midgley:
Enigmatic Stone Chambers in Westchester, Putnam and Dutchess Counties

Matt Bua:

When Walls Talk- (Casting out the Myth that all Stone Walls were built Post-Colonially)


Tuesday, September 3, 2013

Kiskatom Land patent Map from around 1767 which reference stone work

Marked with green are all the references to existing stone work, walls including a pile and an "old ditch"
Hopefully the resolution is high enough. Lots of info on this thing




Thursday, January 31, 2013

Great In-depth West-Central Texas Cairn Website


Area ranchers typically have referred to these large cairn clusters as “Indian burial grounds” http://www.texasbeyondhistory.net/cairn/index.html
Thanks -Tim MacSweeney at Rock Piles

Tuesday, January 22, 2013

EARLY SURVEY OF BOSTON BEFORE THE MOUNDS WERE REMOVED


After.... mounds removed

and in between....1775 survey

Thanks for the Comment  Pwax....
Yes, the verdict is still "way-out"  . Especially since these mounds were flattened long ago.
In my eyes these " hills" are totally consistent with other surveys done in the north east such as EG Squier's 'Aboriginal Monuments of the State of New York'

and the removal of the "hills".... gotta see what they found...
Cutting down Beacon Hill in 1811; a view from the north toward the Massachusetts State House[
3 quotes From "Memorial History of Boston"
" It is rare indeed that a bone of their skeletons is found, except among the middens accumulated around the old camping grounds of the aborigines"

"In Divers places there is much ground cleared by the Indians"

"Winthrop's company found Boston sparsely wooded; water however, was abundant and good. In addition to the springs near Blackstone's House, mention is made in the first records of a "great spring" in spring lane, as well as other springs on the neck and elsewhere"

From Boston:A Topographical History by  Walter Muir Whitehill
"This cove was, as we have seen a marsh partially separated from the Charles River by a long narrow island of solid ground. There was seemingly an indian track, transitable at low tide, across the marshy stretches that separated this island from the peninsula, along the line of the present causeway street."

From James Henry Stark 1882 Antique Views of ye old Towne of Boston
" This want of water was their principal cause of removal to Shawmut, now Boston; for not with standing the resolution of the principal men to build their town at Charlestown, the discouragement attendand on sickness and death caused many to be restless, and to think of other locations; in the meantime Mr William Blackstone who lived at Shawmut( which signifies, in Indian Language, "Living Water," on account of the springs found there, and called by the newcomers Tramount or Trimount, from its appearance from Charlestown of three large hills), learned of their distress, and going over to their relief, advised them to remove to the peninsula. His advice was kindly received and followed soon after. Thus Bosotn became settled by the English Puritans.

Link to audio from stone symposium December 9th 2012

http://www.wgxc.org/archives/5592

Introductions (Bumpy)

Matt Bua 0:00-3:30
Harry Matthews 3:30- 8:50
Wildon Williams 10:08-10:55
Thomas Brannon 10:55-15:30
Polly Midgley 15:30-18:50
Glen Kreisberg 20:00- 1:21
Q and A 1:21-1:46


Sunday, January 20, 2013

crude Incan Refugee Homes or Stone Chamber?




This looks to me like a variation on the Stone Chambers we have around here for observing Solar and Lunar events, but the folks who put out this book feel otherwise....
Below is the text that accompanied this image.

"Ancient buildings found in the tropical forests of   theVilcabamba region are more roughly made than those in most Inca cities. Crude shelters such as this one, now green with lichen and moss, were probably built in haste by Inca refugees who fled to the jungle to escape the Spaniards." p 164  Reader's Digest "The World's Last Mysteries"  The Italics are mine

Saturday, December 15, 2012

Ancient quarries

This small cairn sits on a meandering stacks of stone that keep terracing down.
 Why are these ancient quarries? The amount of time it took to construct these massive stone mounds that go on for miles and miles is way beyond what the Europeans who settled in Kiskatom had. You have to see it to understand the scope.

Monday, November 26, 2012

Stone Symposum December 8th


Stone Symposium Saturday December 8th at the Catskill Community Center  and Live radio Broadcast(wgxc.org) 6-9 pm Radio broadcast 7-9
"An Open Discussion about the Unknown Origins of the Engineered Stone Landscape in the Catskill Area and Beyond"

Free and Open to the Public

for Images and  more info:
www.Hopeskillian.blogspot.com

Symposium Location- 6-9 pm
Catskill Community Center
344 Main St Catskill NY 12414

6pm meet/ greet/ look over materials
begin discussion..Note: There is a gallery to display any pertinent materials.
I'll hang some of the old maps of the Kiskatom that reference the existing stonework.
7pm- begins Broadcast on WGXC 90.7 fm
Participants introductions
7:30- Glenn Kreisberg Powerpoint
"Lost Landscapes and Hidden Legacies:
A Survey of Stone Structure Sites in the Catskills and Hudson Valley"
8:30 Q and A- Wrap up
9pm Broadcast ends-

Continue Conversations.....

Participants (so far)-
Polly Midgley, the NEARA New York Coordinator spoke on The Stone Chamber Enigma at the2010 MES Symposium 
Harry Matthews- Stone Balancer from the High Falls road area
Jared Handelson- Resident of Kiskatom who’s had a long interest in the Lithic sites
of this area and around the world.
Glenn Kreisberg-  Vice President Of New England Antiquities Research Association (neara.org)
Laura Anderson- Moderator
Matt Bua- Recent Kiskatom resident who realized many of  stone “walls” in the area existed before the arrival of first Europeans...

Sam Sebren- Broadcast Engineer and WGXC Torch Carrier


Saturday, November 24, 2012

Cliff Structures



The middle photo shows 2 large corner stone constructions on the edge of a cliff out cropping. I'm standing 20 or so feet above.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Fengshui...

In very simple terms, the essence of fengshui is that configurations of land forms and bodies of water are seen to direct the flow of the universal qi, or 'cosmic current', which with the help of the specialist can be brought to optimum advantage for the person's wealth, happiness, longevity and procreation; similarly, a malicious flow of qi may bring disaster. The flow of qi is influenced by all natural bodies and human constructions, which may either repulse, redirect or catch the qi
-Fengshui in China by  Ole Bruun



Joseph Needham in 'Science and Cultivation in China', describes the influence of fengshui on the Chinese Landscape in terms which might well be applied to ritually ordered landscape in New England:
"Every Place had its special  topographical feature which modified the local influence of the various ch'i of nature. The forms of the hills and directions of the watercourses, being the outcome of the moulding influences of winds and water, were the most important, but in addition, the heights and forms of buildings, and the directions of of road and bridges, were a potent factor. the force and nature of the invisible currents would be from hour to hour modified by the positions of the heavenly bodies, so their aspects as seen from the locality in question had to be considered"   John Michell -Secrets of the Stone p. 111


Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Some quotes from folks who say all stone walls were built post colonially...

From a guy who thinks everyone who visits "America's Stonehenge"  is a gullible sucker,
this quote below has a strange credence....

"Walls have influenced the terrain directly. Hilltop walls forced the rain toward different streams. Lowland walls impounded many small wetlands, caused the build up of soil on slopes, and acted as underground drains on floodplains. Stone walls are so tightly enmeshed with streams,slopes, and soils that the distinction between wall and non wall is often unclear"
          -Robert M. Thorton Author of 'Stone by Stone'(page 7)  and 'Exploring Stone Walls'

And here's the evidence that no stone walls existed before the European presence.....

" The lack of written material is interesting in itself, for it shows better than anything in writing ever could how ordinary these enduring objects were once thought to be"
- Susan Allport  ,Author of Sermon in the Stone (page 107)

There you have it..... she couldn't find much, therefore the Europeans built the whole 252,539 miles of stone walls in New England and New York that existed as per the 1871 Department of Agriculture report on Stone Fences.


Back to Robert M. Thorson...
In his "Field Guide to New England Stone Walls"  The entry which has the title "The Oldest Wall"
reads: The oldest known documentary mention of a stone wall in New England is this one. In 1607 the North Virginia Company established a colony with the intent of permanent settlement. Though it disappeared within the year, a letter cited by the historian Howard Russell strongly suggests that the colonists built a stone wall, which was later destroyed or buried"  page 145....(the italics are mine)

There you have it. More solid evidence that all stone walls were built in post colonial times.
"Destroyed or buried?" nice wall building guys

More Choice quotes from Robert M Thorson's Stone By Stone Book(pg 77):
Jared Eliot's Essays on Field Husbandry in New England(1748 to 1760), the first treatise on agricultural practices in the British colonies- one that included detailed descriptions of how to enclose land, whether by fencing, ditching, plashing(integrating a mix of wood and hedge), or hedging-contains  NO mention of stone walls. Similarly, the anonymous American Husbandry (1775) comments extensively on both the purpose and the condition of colonial enclosures, but does not mention fences or walls made of stone.
Ironically, one of the first mentions of stone walls in the colonies is from an archaeological context. According to the historian Howard Russell, the failed Sagadahoc Hearbes and some old Walls' to be observed by a visitor a decade and a half later."1 Apparently, they were first noticed not for their value as a building accessory, but as physical evidence of earlier human life, in this case the earliest English colonization in the Northeast.  Italics-mine (M.B.) Of course Robert Thorson has nothing backing this claim up.
1. H. Russell's ,Book: A Long Deep Furrow:Three  Centuries of Farming In New England, 1976


Yes matt, I know just what you mean: 
http://wakinguponturtleisland.blogspot.com/2011/02/abundance-of-rareties.html


There are so many basic phenomena that Thornton appears unaware of, that you have to assume he is a pseudo-scentist who writes well but is not observant.

JJ

Sunday, October 7, 2012

An Open Letter to Massachusetts Historical Commission

An Open Letter to Massachusetts Historical Commission by James David Porter

I am writing in regards to an item in your FAQ located on the Review and Compliance section of the Massachusetts Historical Commission website. (http://www.sec.state.ma.us/mhc/mhcrevcom/revcomidx.htm) Here is the entry in question:

I’m concerned that stone piles in a project area may be Native American grave markers. What should I do?
Piles or continuous walls of fieldstones are common in rural Massachusetts wherever there are rocky soils. When historians and archaeologists have conducted thorough, professional research into such stone piles, they have invariably shown that these features are not associated with the Native American settlement of Massachusetts. When it is possible to determine their origin, stone piles prove to be related to agricultural activities such as clearing of fields for pasture or cultivation, and/or marking property bounds during the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, pursuits that were once much more common in what may now be residential suburbs. Because stone piles or walls often marked property lines or boundaries between different land uses such as pasture and woodlot, they are often in a linear row or other geometric pattern, some of which may be consistent with cardinal compass points, solstice sunrises or sunsets, or other celestial phenomena. http://www.anthropology.ccsu.edu/fraudsweb/frauds.htm
I am quite concerned that the above entry from your FAQ discourages developers and property owners from investigating potentially important archaeological sites. Furthermore, the entry is a professionally irresponsible generalization which paints a broad brush across the entire Massachusetts landscape. It is not only historically inaccurate, flying in the face of overwhelming historical evidence, but it also directly contradicts the Commission's own mission to identify, evaluate, and protect important historical and archaeological assets of the Commonwealth.

Read more of James David Porters Historical Research which back up this blatent dis-information 
http://massachuset.blogspot.ca/2009/10/dear-massachusetts-historical.html

Thursday, June 7, 2012

Tuesday, May 1, 2012

Colonial "Walls" or Massive Lanscaping and Water Works of an Ancient Stone Civilization

When I first encountered the stone rows on my property I took peoples explanation blindly that they were all of post- colonial origin. Not once walking the length of the rows to find that none of them enclose land. As many people have pointed out, they almost always terminate at a marsh or stream. I was always curious why one section of the stone row curved before it reached the stream and a series of indentions in the ground continued the straight path of the row. I removed the leave debris and loose stones from the hole next to the stone row and was surprised that the row's stone base just kept going down. I eventually reached water. (A Wall or an Ancient Water System ? This is where I stopped. The base of the row had not been reached. As i began following more rows to where they terminated at the water, I started noticing the water outlet rock formation. Nearby there is a rolling farm field and at the lowest corner of the land there is a beefy L-shaped stone formation with a single stone row that connects to it acting to , what I believe, channel water further down the hill where it eventually connects with the stream. Have a look next time your at a stone row/water source meeting place. Let me know if you can find the outlet.

water works

Hard to see, but this is a large enclosure (30 feet by 20) with the opening facing south west. Part of a much larger cluster of interconnected stone rings(or as Cyrus Thomas calls them "Hut Rings")

v-notch standing stone in 2 parts

These 2 stones rise out of a series of holes the run along a "wall" near the stream termination.

Well -Hill/Water Exit

Stone Vault with Nitch( Gerard Fowke research)

I'm very glad I got a copy of Gerard Fowke's 1910 "Antiquities of Central and South-Eastern Missouri.
In it are photo's of what he calls "Stone Vaults" which correlate exactly to the structure near my site. The Southern facing doorway exists in these. This would strongly support the idea that this  easily pre-dates the arrival of the Europeans. I had someone with a professional metal detector out and he was surprised that we found no nails and barely any other metal objects. This would explain it.






Nitch
'The "enclosure" is actually a cellar for a house. The niche in the cellar wall is called a "cooling closet" in Pennsylvania. It was used to keep milk, cream, and butter cool during the summer months. They may have been used for other purposes as well. The few dated examples we have in PA, RI, CT, & MA date to the 1700's. In the overall photo there is a square stone structure in the lower left corner. This was probably the base to a large chimney. If you poke around to might find brick fragments in this area. In the past few months, I have begun compiling and tracking down examples of this cellar wall niches. This is nice find and the first one reported from a NY site. They are not common.' James E. Gage author of Root Cellars in America: Their History, Design and Construction 1609-1920


" I found one of these cooling closets in Central NY 2 years ago. Click here for a link to the Rock Piles post on that structure."

Wall Termination at stream.

Stone Wall connection to stream. Walls go many feet below the ground. Potentially as part of massive water works

Split Boulder with Snaggle Tooth

Split Boulder

Embedded "Goronet" bottle in Stone Mound


Here's a small mound (around 4 x 4 ft) with an embedded "Goronet" bottle. It's locked in place


coronet?

I went back and looked, yes, "coronet" is more like it...Even though I like the "Gore."
Thanks Tim

Tuesday, April 17, 2012

Stone Mounds







Norman said:
The second photo in the series looks like a platform cairn, which I've been studying for the past fourteen years. If built on a steep slope, the lower portion is usually quite high, sometimes 6 feet or more, but if constructed on level ground, the feature would not be much than 3 feet high.